Diesel Washington has been eulogizing gay porn on his Twitter all day long, citing several examples of what killed it (since we’re murdering things, can we kill Twitter, too?), beginning with the advent of the DVD and ending with, well, I don’t know. As of post time, Diesel Washington hasn’t stopped ranting. Here is the best of his twulogy, thus far.
Slightly edited from Washington’s timeline, for coherence and continuity:
gay porn is DEAD!
Some blame the introduction of HIV in the 80’s, Gay/Str8 were scared and the industry took a nose dive for a period of time. Maybe it was the invention of the VHS tape, that made shooting on 8mm film a thing of the past…But that is going to far back I will stay current. Lets start at when the DVD took over the VHS tape, that seems fitting and somewhat current. DVD came and VHS was out.
From DVD to internet. Okay the internet…it made possible for cheaply made porn to be beamed all over the world and homemade porn became the IT thing…still is. Studios held out as long as possible, and was not prepared for the onslaught of the internet. They were too slow to react, and panic set in. Smart websites kept filming and filming and putting out work, faster than studio and a quicker turnaround rate just beating studios 2 punch. Then the mega websites drowned the DVD market with product they long ago filmed and sold them at half the price of studios DVD’s. This added competition to the DVD, drove down DVD prices and forcing some studios to cut production costs/scene rates.
Due to production costs, studios started using every popular model that exploded on the internet scene, hoping to generate Buzz for Studio. This led to the overuse of many models, lookalike scenes, scenes with the same models over and over. The work started to look the same. A popular trend that emerged was the Gay4pay model that still exists to this day..Handsome Men/Boys that had limited performances. Instead of it being just a trend it became a Genre of gay porn sadly, but in 2012 the arrogance of the Gay4pay model are hitting nerves.
Somehow Gay porn got sloppy. We had models running around saying they caught HIV from a porn set and then the Witchhunts came. Reality stars entering porn…and porn stars entering Reality TV. Some models even declaring Gay porn was a mistake…their “dark past” bullshit.
Studios started the crazy Witchhunt wanting to be the first one to introduce a model…unknown to studio that model has 30 scenes in the can. Since everybody wants to have the scoop they all put out that models work, sad part it’s at the same time…Wham!! Market flood. When everybody uses the same model…what does that say about your “Branding”? You hired the same model like everybody else?
Self hating gays helped to destroy Gay porn….REAL TALK. If your still waiting for your fave Gay4pay model to do more in porn and you been waiting over and over. and its been years..WAKE UP. The more you buy their work hoping for the day..the more you employ this model who is doing nothing but stroking a half hard dick..COME ON!!
Here is the biggest secret to why Gay porn is dead…well one of them: Big mega Str8 sites are buying up all the little gay studios/websites and turning out work that looks like its being shot from a Str8 POV.
Another problem that killed Gay porn…..playing favorites with some of these stars I mean come on. If your fucking the Studio owner/director/casting cool, get some roles here and there. But no….they are casted in every project.
The current trend of bareback porn that is flooding the market is the tombstone…Went to the local porn shop and all these bareback titles in glossy packaging, Stamped with “SEED, BREED, RAW, LOADS, SPERM” it’s all Eyefuckin. Instead of creating quality product, they Stamp it Raw make it glossy, and eye fuck you to buy it. GALLONS OF CUM LOADS.
Whether you like him or not (and please, I get it, a lot of you don’t like him; spare me your boring comments), Diesel is mostly right.
The only thing he didn’t mention specifically (though he might have gotten to it by now since it took me an hour to copy/paste his tweets) is piracy and illegal downloading. Not only is it hurting profits, if a studio knows that the content it’s producing is just going to end up being illegally downloaded and not paid for, what incentive do they have to produce quality work? Why bother making something worthwhile if you know someone’s just going to steal it? Hence, a lot of the awful and lazy gay porn we see today.
All I have to say is that I don’t know how anyone can watch Lil Papi’s oh po ass in his wack ass porns. He is a soft Dick bottom who has a loose ass. He doesn’t even look like he’s remotely “there” during his videos. He ain’t that cute either. At least June gives you a papi here and there and throws a hard dick around and busts.
My partner and I stumbled over here by a different page and thought I should check things
out. I like what I see so now i am following you. Look forward to looking over your web page for a second time.
There is no aspect of gay porn that desperately needs to be explored. SCAT, the technical for SHIT. I think if more porn movies in which SCAT is featured as a part of the sex scences, this type of genre could bring in a new audience as well as sales. I find it absolutely erotic to see two men or one doing SCAT scenes. There are so many avenues in SCAT that be explored and creatively done.Throw in the aspects of urination fetishes and millions of gay men will explore a new dimension in their lives
long live gay porn. As long as people hate their lives and continue to live in a fantasy world gay porn will thrive.
So James, the non-entity, took a powder. So did douchetop. Well thats what you call pussy! They probably ran off to a gay, bareback film festival and are now catching aids from licking strange bung hole. Or they’re at gaypride, following some.creep in buttless chaps hoping to inhale one of his fleet enema farts.
Hey deusch top, why does it take you so long to respond? Are you in Germany? If.so, let me know. I am intrigued with the fatherland. Unless your in pioria illinios,, then its cool.
This is for you struedle sack! Who are you passing judgement? With your profanity laced comment. If you had any brains you would know that all humans fall from grace. Its the human condition. Yes ive sinned, and I sin, but I try not to and I ask for fogiveness. As for those other religions, that james the hemmoroid licker was referring to, no they are cul-de-sacs in spirituality. Dead ends devoid of the ultimate perfection found only in the redemtion of Jesus Christ. Dont get me wrong im not a zealot. And yes I have a past peppered with pornographic performance. I was only trying to give a performers prospective. No your right I did not give all the money to god. I used it to fund a three year vacation. But now and since 2000, I had to swallow my pride and go back to the job market making alot less money, and working really hard for it. I tithe regularly, and my wife whos known me since childhood , loves god and forgives my past. The only reason I spoke up is because people were talking like bareback is cool, but its not. I knew alot of bottoms them that are.dead now. And they died really young. Its personally scary, because I corn holed alot of them. Relax. Ligjten up its the internet. if you cant take a little ribbing then your just too sensitive. Thetes a ton of nobody jerk offs on here, and heres a chance to read some comment from someone.who was in the heart of the topic at hand. How could anyone possibly make up this.shit. I personally dont have the time for it. I know because the bible forbids homosexuality (book of romans) alot of gaybos hate god, but its not necessary. I understand.true joy boys have a chromosome anomoly. I understand that. Im just one of those rare people who have.an eclectic taste for sex. I cannot exercise my lust any longer because im married but I deeply understand the drive to engage in such behavior. I was responsible for alot of.really hot, fun exighting porno scenes. Stop the antagonism, and have.some.fun on the net figuring out who I was. It should.take two minutes if you know the era. If not who cares, because it is a new era, and the performers are less, hot, less engaging and way less interesting. Thsts why this trend of.home ade porn will result in abject indifference.
James, before you start calling someone a liar, mabey you should have some proof. Is your imagination so under developed that you cant believe that somewhere In california there is a former porn actor surfing a smart phone in bed while his wife sleeps beside him? Just searching around for glimpses of a world he left behind 15 years ago? Being skeptical is one thing, but allowing yourself to sit in an anger filled pit of ignorance is not healthy. If I was some randim liar then how would I know the following? Falcon is run by a guy named John Rutheford.. All worlds video is owned by an old queen named Dan Cross. T.J. Paris owned Ikon studios in north hollywood. the glory holes series was put out bt Bruno something from Oh, Man studios. Paul Carrigan is also married, I did alot of scenes with him. Seth black was a crazy little queen who drove a dark green mustang. Given to him by Bill, owner of an erotic wrestling studio outta huntington beach. Mickeys is the gay bar in L.A. On Santa monica blvd. Where all the joy boys hang out, and the ”stars” hang out. How would I know the main director for jet set is Paul Barresi, a former colt model, and performer who crossed over and was notorious for outting travolta, and being the first to be paid 10,000 bucks for the story in the Enquirer magazine. My first scene was a J.o. On a boat in marina del ray harber in a movie called the island of doctor porneau. Directed by Johnny Ray. He blew me just for fun. I think hes dead now. My second was for.studio 2000 bottoming for Rick Chase on a tree at one in the morning at an outdoor movie ranch in the hills of malibu iff p.c.h, by neptunes net restaurant across frim county line beach where I used to camp with my dogs and surf. While I was sleeping in a hotel room waiting to do a falcin scene directed by chi chi La Poo,, ( Larue ) Tom Chase tried to bang me. But I told him I didnt do it unless was a scene. But we.canoodled anyway. I woulnt pop though, he did. I got popped by bobby golden in One Hot Summer. What do you want to know the restaurants they ate at in west hollywood? The street Karen Dior lived on in west hollywood, where he filmed scenes while he was wrapped in blankets and quietly dying od A.I.D.S..? You want to know the name of the seedy apartement house in east hollywood where leo masters went on meth fuelled sex binges at all hours before he succumbed to his lifestyle? The only other player at that time who was as busy as me was Drew Andrews. Any body remember Sweet William? I popped a 15 foot load while working with him in an All worlds video. It was a 20’s gangster scene in a dream sequence. You wanna know about the bath houses? Melrose spa. Spa 2250 in Wilmington. The Nob hill theater in San Fran. How bout the gay criuse? I popped a load for the crowd un a 10 knot head wind simewhere iff the coast of Key West. I could go on forever, but gotta get to sleep. Dont hate about what you dont know about. Good night
Sorry about the typos. I hit the I instead of the o alot. Im too tired to go back and correct. I was on alot of box covers. Vhs style. And dvd. Mostly vhs. I was on the cover of palm desires, hard hitters, and many others. I had articles in Man date, man shots adam gay guide, and A.V.N. Magazine. Gino Colbert is the coolest director in the business. He directed the stryker movie. He directed three brothers. I was in that too. You wanna know about the time gay assed Blade Thompson tried to put a restraining order against me because I refused to do two scenes for the price of one. He lost because the queen never came to court. He used to take advantage of people. Once while I was pissing off set Joe Romero sneaked up and cupped my stream and tasted it. He was one if those real man smell dudes. Hes dead now too. The series I created was called Raw Meat. I also did Real Stories of the Homo Patrol. I got stories for days. Chock ful O’ juicy details. But I’m too tired now, and if people are going to distasteful and rude I will share no more. Besides, it was a long time ago and porno is nothing to be proud of. I just know Emilio Sands was so hot. I used to drive his hot little butt to his job at staples in my 27 foot southwind motor home. Then head to sandiego with my two dogs Slinky and Pete to Jet ski and camp.
“Dont hate about what you dont know about.”
There’s no hate in anything I said, but this conversation is over. You moan about people being rude and distasteful, but this is you in your first rant: “Why dont you take your bad breath, stinky pits, and dirty butt and go watch a snuff film.” And what about this “piece of wisdom”: “Thats why the.average lifespan of a homosexual is 46.” Know irony much? By the way: that number is stolen from studies that are bigoted, biased, and false. Makes sense a fabulist like you would quote made up figures.
Go back to your “wife” and make believe past. Kisses
Hey james, you dried up fruit, your just a tired old queen whos only hobbie is playing dot to dot with your ugly boyfriends anal warts. Your a pathetic loser!
One more thing for the filthy mouthed kraut. Its ok to love god and the bible is the only truth. It is the way it is the life. Jesus reigns, and loves you.despite your being mired in darkness.
The bible is the only truth? If so, why are you here? Are you trying to “save us”? And what about the Torah and the Koran? Do they count also are truth, or is your Jesus the only god worth talking to?
‘kraut’….very nice chritian attitude towards germans you have there.
You must have made a lot of money doing all those scenes plus directing…i like to think that in your repentance you gave all that filthy cash away,but i somehow doubt it :)
If your story is true,you’re a hypocritical piece of shit.
If you’re just a troll,you’re still a sad piece of shit….and you know it.
Wow, that was easy. Now your frothing at the mouth angry spewing profanity. So whos base? The name I used is none of your business. Wether you believe it or not means nothing. The truth is Gay sex is dangerous, and thats why if you engage in it you must protect yourself from life threatening viruses. You obviously are not aware of the late 90’s era, or you would know what performer directed, acted in all genras, and was especially fond of Emilii Sands, and was famous for having a powerful ejaculate. I know the performers real names, the streets the studios are on, and all the intimate details of the business. All you can do is spew profanity, and thrash around in your impotent obscurity. I bottomed first, but when the majority of limp wristed ”tops” couldnt perform I switched to top/versatile. Probably the most notable studio based in San Francisco was falcon. I was in a movie called the chosen, and I was in several vidios for studio 2000, all worlds video outta sandiego, catalina, etc. ect. e tc. I was the meat in a jeff stryker logan reed sandwich. I was in location in HI. For a flick called hawaiian illustrated directed by t.j. Paris, etc.ect.ect. If your trying to insult soeone because of a typo your really reaching. Try some intelligent retorts and you will seem less like a cum stained cock hungry, lonely knuckle dragger.
DVDs SHOULD HAVE become small!
Internet streaming is the most EFFICIENT, CONVENIENT and PREFERRED way of receiving porn AND storing it. The advancing PROGRESS of technology is a GOOD THING that SHOULD make all our lives easier, cheaper and more efficient.
Let’s be honest: Porn VHS and DVD, especially gay porn, was ALWAYS overpriced. $65 in the late ’90s for a one-hour studio picture?
When even Hollywood DVDs and VHS were $10 – $20 with a LOT more effort, money, quality and value invested in them?
$65 for just a few people in front of a camera IS NOT, WAS NOT EVER worth it, but bootlegging was harder for people to do than file sharing/tube uploading. Porn studios had an upper hand that technology RIGHTLY RECTIFIED which made life better for everyone.
Mega-sites SHOULD have bought good gay studios and the sexual orientation of the owners DOESN’T FUCKING MATTER.
Any gay-oriented producers CAN and STILL DO create and their individual style of content, then distribute it through an affiliate or their own site. The “straight-owned” supersites WANT and REWARD THEM for knowing what gay men want. Gay producers should WANT to be available on the most popular, efficient forums of distribution, too.
Everything that happened is ECONOMIC JUSTICE and PROGRESS, except for the piracy.
ANYONE WHO WATCHES PORN BUT NEVER PAYS FOR IT IS AN ABSOLUTE TROLL, A PARASITE and a THIEF driving the hot guys out of porn.
If you favor a particular style of porn or star and you don’t want that kind to go away, YOU BETTER FUCKING PAY FOR IT SOMETIMES.
This guy washington is a non entity. I was responding to what another poster said. No, im not a closet joy boy. I have a history in the biz. Between 96 and 99 I did around 100 scenes a year. I went around the country and to the Islands. Towards the end I also went around the country doing the bath house and theater shows. I moved on and got a real job. Ive been married to a woman for years. Back in my early twenties I had curiosities that precipitated my involvement in the porno business. This coupled with my own natural aversion to manual labor. Once in a while I still get certain urges which are not unlike getting an urge for a steak dinner. However due to my alliegance to the tenents in the Bible, and because I love my , and will not commit adultery, I ignore them or just do some reminiscing, and rub one out. I usually remember my old buddy Emilio Sands. He is the epitome of what I find.sexually palatable. I feel strongly about the unsafe sex issue because alot of those people I used to know, and have banged are dead now. People like Kristian Brooks, Troy Steele, kyle McKenna,Leo Masters, Joe Romero, Karen Dior, Allen Gassman, and too many more. Most of those are dead.because of extreme promiscuity and unsafe sex practices. I was the perfect Gay for pay type. My difference was in the fact that I enjoyed most of the sex, and when I didnt, I faked it. If what I did was not cool to watch,.then I wouldnt have.done close ti three hundred scenes, around 50 straight scenes, 25 tranny scenes, and a few bi scenes. I was known for extremely.reliable nature, and a freakishly strong ejaculate. I dont want to judge or hate on anyone here. I just dont like hearing people talk cavalierly about unsafe sex practices which always lead to early.death. Thats why the.average lifespan of a homosexual is 46. That is a shame.
I love my wife. …and yes she knows about my past.
Oh yeah, I forgot,. Toward the end I created, directed, and acted in around seven movies of the gonzo type. another reason why I didn’t die was because I didn’t participate in the gay lifestyle, when my scenes were done I jumped in my motorhome, with my 2 dogs, and spent all my time around the lakes or the mission bay area in san diego jet skiing and camping. just having gay sex won’t kill you.its the gay lifestyle that will kill you. it’s always the combination of un safe sex and drugs.
oh yeah another point I should make,. is because a lot of those gay performers could not stay busy enough because of the limp dicks, they had to resort to serial prostitution. what a lotta people don’t realize is prostitution and pornography go hand in hand. unfortunately some people just can’t transition out of the porn business and stay in it until they die. I always had an identity even before porno.
I was a typical high school graduated working man. and that’s exactly what I went back to doing. anyway I haven’t spoken out about my past in over 15 years and that’s why I’ve been so long winded. sorry to blow up your thread. I feel like need to just to put a little bit of reality into the conversation.
:-) You are a liar. What was your name as a performer? Which vids were you in. Which did you direct? Don’t come here talking a bunch of noise without a thing called proof. By the way, the following line proves your ultimate status as douche: “I feel like need to just to put a little bit of reality into the conversation.”
but you HAVE judged everyone…you’ve judged them by your own rock-bottom standards.
You’re a hypocrite…even worse,you’re a biblical hypocrite.
Nasty piece of shit.
There is a place for a new gay porn. It will be homegrown. It will be made by gay men for gay men. Today’s gay porn is indeed dead. It died when the content providers forgot the end consumer. It died when shit loads of money was spent on awards shows the consumer does not experience or care about. Right now gay porn is infested. With large corporations, women tring to fit into a tribe in which they don’t belong, the industry will shrink yet again. But from its ashes a new underground porn will cum.
Bare back porn? BARE BACK PORN!? Are you kidding? See, this is the kind of thing that ensures the demise not only the business, but the performers themselves. Why dont you take your bad breath, stinky pits, and dirty butt and go watch a snuff film. So you retrobates dont remember the.aids.scourge of the.early eighties? Why do you worship death? Raw butt sex leads to early death. open your seed stained eye lids. People like Chi Chi Larue have been making a killing off the mountains of dead bottoms who have been through the industry grist mill. Being a homo is bad enough, why do you gotta turn it into a death cult. Mabey if you werent such abject losers, and didnt have to live vicariously through others you would have your own sex lives. Wake up douche bags.
Did you even read what Washington wrote? He’s no fan of bareback. However, I’m sensing you don’t care. Just came here to spout moral outrage. Thank you. We heard ya. Anything else you need to share?
are you one of those closet gays that I see on the news with the anti-gay churches?
With the exception of the changes with the internet, the majority of Diesel’s whining could have been done in the early 80’s. Gay4Pay, the same actors in similar scenes in similar movies? That’s nothing new, Mr. Washington. That’s what you get when you have a (relatively) small pool of performers to choose from.
If every studio had a few exclusives, then you’ll get the same, remanufactured scenes in film after film. I like seeing fresh faces and bodies and personalities. It’s variety, and it’s a good thing.
Yes, the internet changed things. We gave up shitty plots and pleasant but unnecessary scenery and in turn got a plethora of choice. That’s the market now, whether you like it or not. Every year or so we’ll see the press releases about the new gay porn: there’s plot, there’s high production values, there’s acting. They still mostly suck. These men are hired STRICTLY for their appearance. If they can act, great! But the majority are, frankly, just like you: wooden, and forced to read lines that make amateur filmmakers look like Scorsese.
Should I point out that it’s contradictory to whine about too many actors AND that there isn’t enough variety in scene partners? Impossible to have both, Diesel.
You’ve been in the industry for awhile now. You’ve failed to change it. Why is that? Because porn isn’t made for the actors, their egos, their wishes or dreams… it’s made for the consumers.
What’s dead is the idea of porn “stars” and the studios that promote them. Why pay for it? There’s so much free porn available over the Net and we’re finding out that amateurs are just as good as these so called “stars.” Without the DVD’s to sell and the “stars” to promote as if they were something special, the studios are on their way out. Oh, and bareback porn is more prevalent, because it’s more erotioc, it’s what’s popular and there’s lots of it on amateur sites.
Zach’s point about piracy is the most pertinent of anything mentioned here. And until John Water’s Odorama is revived, the arguments for and against smelling like a man, will be irrelevant when talking about video.
Porn faces the same issues as music and film. Only we get far less respect – sometimes deservedly so, but usually not.
Replace Porn for music in the following piece and you still have a pretty useful story about what’s gone wrong with the industry:
http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/letter-to-emily-white-at-npr-all-songs-considered/
Consumers say porn companies are “evil” (never mind that they take financial risks and even risk prison time) – just like record labels.
They think porn “stars” should make money off appearances and sell their bodies (just as bands should tour and sell merch never mind that his hardly will pull in as much cash as say, a career in dishwashing).
And in porn, like music, everyone forgets all the other people that work hard with little fame and glory to make a high quality product – people that need to be paid.
I once wanted to make really good creative BDSM porn. But reality set in: I would never get the right budget to do anything that’s not half assed – not even close. So my crazy scripts will never be videoed. I’ve got great ideas, but the market can’t support them, so why bother.
Which makes me worry about anyone – like Diesel – trying to start up right now. But fuck, I hope he succeeds. Independent content producers rock, whether in porn, film or music.
Hey I jacked off to one of your videos the other day…small world
There is no comparison between music and porn….An R.E.M or Radiohead c.d is for life and are created by geniuses.
Fucking for money is not genius,you swallow a viagra and bang bang bang.Porn actors and directors etc are not creative geniuses,porn is for a twenty minute jerk off when you’re bored.
Fred Halsted and Christoper Rage both have made porn movies that stand up to any great work of art, IMHO.
But your point is valid. Why is there so much music that is fun as both recreation and great art, but porn generally aspires to no more than recreation?
“I don’t care if people like Me…”
:-)
What has actually died is the allure of the exclusive model.
LOL, I love how Diesel get the shit stirring! And he’s basically right about gay porn. Except it’s not dead, it’s evolved into pretty crappy work for the most part. Some are trying really hard to keep the quality good, but most just aim low. Thankfully it won’t go away, but regretfully it is heading toward a comatose state.
I would just like to add to a few things:
“gay porn is DEAD!
Some blame the introduction of HIV in the 80′s, Gay/Str8 were scared and the industry took a nose dive for a period of time. Maybe it was the invention of the VHS tape, that made shooting on 8mm film a thing of the past…But that is going to far back I will stay current. Lets start at when the DVD took over the VHS tape, that seems fitting and somewhat current. DVD came and VHS was out.
From DVD to internet. Okay the internet…it made possible for cheaply made porn to be beamed all over the world and homemade porn became the IT thing…still is. Studios held out as long as possible, and was not prepared for the onslaught of the internet. They were too slow to react, and panic set in. Smart websites kept filming and filming and putting out work, faster than studio and a quicker turnaround rate just beating studios 2 punch. Then the mega websites drowned the DVD market with product they long ago filmed and sold them at half the price of studios DVD’s. This added competition to the DVD, drove down DVD prices and forcing some studios to cut production costs/scene rates.”
I’m young so I wouldn’t know shit about how much damage the porn industry suffered once HIV/AIDS was noticed. but I see a few vintage videos that seem to be even more sexy than the current ones so I guess it did cause series damage to scene quality.
“Due to production costs, studios started using every popular model that exploded on the internet scene, hoping to generate Buzz for Studio. This led to the overuse of many models, lookalike scenes, scenes with the same models over and over. The work started to look the same. A popular trend that emerged was the Gay4pay model that still exists to this day..Handsome Men/Boys that had limited performances. Instead of it being just a trend it became a Genre of gay porn sadly, but in 2012 the arrogance of the Gay4pay model are hitting nerves.”
“Somehow Gay porn got sloppy. We had models running around saying they caught HIV from a porn set and then the Witchhunts came. Reality stars entering porn…and porn stars entering Reality TV. Some models even declaring Gay porn was a mistake…their “dark past” bullshit.”
like Steven Daigle and then Dustin Zito, various forgettable models for Sean Cody and Randy Blue for the Vice Versa. if it was that bad, then there were other options to pay for college you know. most of the guys claim straight or bi(more like bullshit) anyway so, they could’ve taken the Military option. just sayin. unless, they were dumber than a housefly
“Studios started the crazy Witchhunt wanting to be the first one to introduce a model…unknown to studio that model has 30 scenes in the can. Since everybody wants to have the scoop they all put out that models work, sad part it’s at the same time…Wham!! Market flood. When everybody uses the same model…what does that say about your “Branding”? You hired the same model like everybody else?”
like Marc Dylan and Robert Axel being seen just about………….. EVERYWHERE!!! Marc more than Robert. nothing against them for making their money, but the quickest way to have people lose interest is to be seen in 5 scenes for 1 studio, 10 scenes for another, another 10 for another, 4 each for 6 more, and 3 for the last one…………… ALL AT THE SAME TIME. you don’t wanna wear out your welcome now.
“Self hating gays helped to destroy Gay porn….REAL TALK. If your still waiting for your fave Gay4pay model to do more in porn and you been waiting over and over. and its been years..WAKE UP. The more you buy their work hoping for the day..the more you employ this model who is doing nothing but stroking a half hard dick..COME ON!!”
no use saying it anymore. you’re talking to a brick wall when it comes to this subject. Xavier Matthews and the rest of his ilk are too hopped up on Cody Cummings’ dick that they would never get to taste. they’re a lost cause that might have voted for the people who are limiting our rights anyway.
“Here is the biggest secret to why Gay porn is dead…well one of them: Big mega Str8 sites are buying up all the little gay studios/websites and turning out work that looks like its being shot from a Str8 POV.”
like NDS?
“Another problem that killed Gay porn…..playing favorites with some of these stars I mean come on. If your fucking the Studio owner/director/casting cool, get some roles here and there. But no….they are casted in every project.”
Again. NEXT DOOR STUDIOS. Austin and Anthony already put their shit on blast on the way out.
“The current trend of bareback porn that is flooding the market is the tombstone…Went to the local porn shop and all these bareback titles in glossy packaging, Stamped with “SEED, BREED, RAW, LOADS, SPERM” it’s all Eyefuckin. Instead of creating quality product, they Stamp it Raw make it glossy, and eye fuck you to buy it. GALLONS OF CUM LOADS.”
cheap advertising. it is nothing special. overall I agree with most of what you said
But Diesel that does not mean you are off the hook with that “Man Smell” shit. lets be honest here. we all like men. we wouldn’t be gay if we didn’t. and sure the smell of another man’s odor would be acceptable ………………..
but not everywhere or by everyone!!! when you’re working, there’s no need to have the “funk”. last time I checked, we are not that far enough in technology where we have smell-o-vision. the viewers aren’t gonna be able to tell, sure, but you’re not doing solo scenes and if your scene partner is having issues with it, then out of respect, it would be good if did away with your pride on this subject, took a shower, and put some damn deodorant on. actually, you may want to think about that as to why we don’t see you working with mainstream studios and giving viewers real sex the way it needs to be. wouldn’t hurt to put it in perspective. besides, the only time I would be okay with who ever I have sex with having BO is under the following conditions:
1. I was horny to the point of not caring and/or had BO too
2. I have a history with this person and am used to him enough where I don’t care or
3. I have a long time Boyfriend/Husband and let him get away with it.
if it isn’t one or all of the three, then I wouldn’t want anyone nor would I want to be the one to have a bad smell while having sex. I don’t know you like that for me to be okay with it!!
you may want to take that into consideration. just sayin.
also, how about adding live chat sites like Flirt4free to the list of gay porn killers.
I dont want to sound harsh but I think its time for Diesel to just walk away. He bring nothing to the industry that makes it better and his movies aren’t anyone’s favorite. If he is doing his own company then stick with that and just go away. Nobody needs such negative trash about the industry they live in when it comes from a person who no body wants to work with.
Theres nothing sexy about bad hygene. Take a bath please. Lastly a good percentage of gaybo porno stars end up six feet under. I would know. I did over 200 scenes in all genres. Then I grew a pair, got a real job and moved on with my life. Thats why I am not dead. Porno will never be the same because due to the internet, and now the smart phone, it is ubiquitous and all the forbidden mystery is gone forever. Not to mention, smelly, tatted out douche boys have infiltrated the ranks, and anyone with low enough self esteem and three inches of wonderworm can get hired these days.
I think everyone is throwing the word “dead” around really inaccurately. If it were dead, none of us would be here.
I agree with him it’s dead and I’d be frustrated, too, if I was a black gay performer considering interracial porn is so in demand on the straight side and has always been thought of as practically worse than bareback on the gay side. Like your career is dead for a white gay performer if you do it.
Who cares.
I don’t pay for porn,it’s a total waste of money…most of the ‘actors’ are hetero,dull,or both,so homo-porn is pretty much sexless these days.The exceptions are,unfortunately,bareback dudes like Ian Jay,Dan Fisk,Christian etc.They kiss like lovers and fuck like whores,and ENJOY it,and that’s what has died in the majority of porn…the EXCITMENT!….who the hell wants to watch scenes where there is no kissing,tongues,excitement and pure joy of great sex.Boring.
So porn is on it’s deathbed…who really cares.It’s not worth saving.
I have to agree with Diesel as well, gay porn is dead. Gay studios have gone way to far hiring nothing but GAY4PAY and I’m sic of it. I love gay porn and been watching since I was 14 from old Falcon to Catalina, the old gay porns turn me on cause you could tell the guys were into each other sexually even though they’re acting sucked. Why would I pay to watch boring gay for pay porn with limp dicks, nelly twinks that look like they are 14 of age…yuck. I find Treasure Island more entertaining even that is not my cup of tea.
Not one to jump on everyone’s bandwagon, but I think Diesel has a great point. Why would anyone want to pay for something that is half-assed/rushe? When you could turn to the many free tube sites, where there are many many different types of porn/people to choose from, at the click of a button! I have been watching porn since I was sixteen, and now at twenty-six, I have seen how porn as a whole has changed/fell off. I feel the disconnect came, when the studios forgot who their target/demographic was. The people behind the camera wanted to be in front of the camera, people with no business directing doing so, porn stars began to speak, and lastly with all due respect to Mr.Pam I love you, but I’m sorry to say no woman can truly know and understand the filthy/dirty places men minds wander to, without being a guy. I love all porn and would not have a problem with buying porn, if I got my monies worth.I too don’t give a flying fuck about how hot you are,if you are going to do/ star in porn films bring your A++++ game to every scene you film. Who remembers Rob Steel, who was hot/beautiful as the day is long, but could not get/keep a hard on, or convince anyone he was there to get down & dirty! Bring back some performers out of retirement with that raw animal sex drive like,Rip Eric Rhodes, Matthew Rush, Tober Bradt Todd Maxwell, Ben Campezi, Steve Rambo, Ray Harley, Robert Collins,Bruce Beckham, Carlo Masi,Roman Heart,Ken Browning, Tom Chase, Ty Lebeouf, Vinne D’angelo, Vince Ferelli, John Magnum,JC Carter and Antton Harri.Those are the kind of men you know they not only showed up to get paid, but also to get way down & dirty. I realize some of the men listed are still doing porn, but their last couple of scenes were crappy and way too clinical. Until then I have my oldie but goodie dvds and my trusty old free tube sites!
Dawgpound?….now there’s a site worth referencing..LMFAO
Your no Erick Rhodes…never will be, old nasty skank.
The gay porn industry is dead… the way he remembers it to have existed. But the reality is, everything changes and always has. In five years it’ll be different from the way it is today.
The real problem with gay porn is that it lacks passion. Why wouldn’t I watch an X-tube clip with actual gay people in it who are clearly enjoying fucking each other, when the alternative is a bunch of G4Pers, who fake their way to the top and still leave me dis-satisfied when it’s over?
The big dicks, the chisled abs, the gapping holes don’t mean anything if the people who are doing the fucking don’t look and sound like they are enjoying the fucking.
Some of my favorite porn stars aren’t the ones with the best bodies but are the ones who put on the best show. When the porn producers truly realize that, then is when you will see the re-animation of porn.
Just ‘cos there’ve been so many haters, I just wanted to say I think Diesel is one of the hottest men in (or out of porn). Part of his charm is his willingness to ruffle feathers and that he has an opinion and a brain. Plus it’s hard to disagree with his points about the internet’s impact on the porn industry.
Gay porn is NOT dead. Men will always be horny and they will always want to watch fucking. What Diesel is really saying is that HIS KIND of gay porn is dead. My granddad used to complain about color TV, too.
My intention is to put my heart, art & creativity into every scene I shoot.
I love gay porn!
I love my gay boys!
I LOVE CAPTURING REALLY REALLY HOT SEX ON CAMERA!
Long live Gay Porn!
(please remember to buy your porn…spanks! :)
Diesel
Glad you are creating talent. I think you will be good at it and have success. But that Rick Santorum sweater vest has to go.
He also forgot to add that in the porn of yesteryear models could be any fantasy you wanted because you rarely heard one speak or got to meet one in person. With the advent of the internet it gave the models a voice and a platform to share their opinions and personalities. This sometimes doesn’t help sustain the fantasy of the HOT man you just want to fuck or get fucked by. Sometimes it does quite the opposite.
very true! sometimes models are hotter when they’re not complaining ;)
Leo Forte wrote a very good blog post about the sad state of the industry currently including the ever declining scene rates. Like straight porn, the talent is much more disposable now and the current “new crop” of performers are lucky if they are still getting work after a year in the industry. Piracy, and illegal downloading have taken a big bite out of the profits and the general attitudes among porn “consumers” is “who pays for porn?”. On the flip side of that what is the motivation for a person to pay to see Performer X when you can see him on 20+ other sites including tube sites and when there is a new scene coming out with this performer every few days. After a few months you notice this performers work starts to drop off more and more until they are no longer getting work.
Plus just about anyone with a cell phone camera can make a porn now and can upload it to a free tube site. The truly amateur/homemade stuff is what a lot of porn consumers are turning to. Look at the what is happening with sites like Cam 4 and Flirt 4 free and the fact that established talent are now doing webcam shows to make ends meet. A lot of porn companies are struggling to keep the lights on now, yeah piracy played a big part of that but a shitty product played a part in it as well.
Performers have trouble finding work?
I blame Marc Dylan. He takes ALL THE WORK.
Not to mention all the dick. There’s none left for ANYONE.
Oh no. Internet pirates are putting porn actors out of work.
The poor things. They may have to go out and get real jobs.
Do you have the link for that? I’d like to read it.
Leo Forte’s blog.
http://leofortexxx.blogspot.com/2012/06/to-last-man.html
I figured that this was going to happen….
Let the hate begin..
Yes I’m 40+ and working with Dawgpoundusa.com creating content, a trailor should be out next week…
I was a favorite, I was signed for three years as exclusive until I couldnt hold my tongue anymore. Why am I going to stay silent and let the problem continue. This wise man had a Reality check…
And this “Funk” shit again??? Nodoby complains when its Chris Porter with a alittle B.O. or another big name star..But Diesel?? Not sure why people don’t understand SOME PEOPLE like Man smells(Ripe Pits, sweaty feet/socks) I gave that smell my own special twist “Diesel Funk” I know the running joke inside of the Industry that was so 4 years ago though when I was HARDCORE into BDSM. People still talking “Funk” in 2012?? Get new jokes already!! And nobody seemed to mind smelling their favorite porn star during IML/Grabby, I know I smelled alot of B.O. walking around IML this year.
And looking towards the future right now..?? I’m Directing and making my own content.
Like I said before…People do not have to like Me personally, just click on my work and jerk off its very simple. I don’t care if people like Me….I do however care that people like my work or a project that I created. That is something that has nothing to do with my personality or lack of one.
But go ahead I’m sure there will be more comments from Haters,
Start posting….
Or if you keep getting complaints about it, maybe you could consider “Wait I am a professional who wants to respect my co-stars who apparently do not appreciate BO like I do. I will instead shower and try to make sure I present myself in the least offensive way to my co-workers. And if I choose otherwise, I will not rant online on how surprised I am noone hires me anymore”
Color me crazy but that’s what I’d do.
@nhuixnhuix, you hit the nail on the head. I want Diesel to experience success. Hell, I want everyone to be successfu. But, I don’t think Diesel has the focus or the self-objectivity to make it happen. How he does not understand “funk etiquette” is byond me. Also, he keeps harping on “when he was an exclusive” but guess what…then you weren’t an exclusive. That exclusive crap also contributed to the death of porn. Fans never really cared who was exclusive. Exclusives may have been good for the ego of the “star” and the studio, but had no impact on the fans that purchased the product. Do fans really care that their favoriite star is tied only to ACME Studio or do they care about the quality of the production and sizzle factor of the scene?
Lastly, if I were Diesel I would pipe down about the Dawgpound stuff. Great you have a job there, but keep quiet until you actually have something to brag about. Just working there and “creating content” is not newsworthy. Dawgpoung has a lot of opportunity to improve and grow. A year from now, let the customers/fans determine if made a difference at DawgpoundUSA.
lol u guys know u sound ridiculous burning this whole ‘funk’ thing into the ground…i mean geez, what a TANGEANT! LMFAO and diesel is right about all the B.O at IML/grabbys….well seeing as he was at hydrate (which is by far the scummiest, nastiest, ‘meth’iest gay bar in chicago) i’m not surprised he smelled tons of B.O.
but i ran into diesel in chicago and he was a very nice guy to me. so i cant say i know his life story but most of the other porn stars there seemed to be stuck in a k-hole or were too busy pretending to be a-list celebrities and ‘shielding’ themselves from the sea of fans and paparazzi outside….*sarcasm*
Erik Rhodes would have responded to this by now. Miss him. Instead of talking about how porn is dead. Can’t you take a fucking minute to remember the man who was giving you publicity and reminisce on all the stuff that went down between the two of you? Don’t act like it didn’t happen. Show the courtesy you want to be shown to you.
What he needs to do is put all the time and energy he spends dwelling on the past into looking toward the future.
Until he does that, he will remain a nobody.
isn’t Diesel W. like 40+ so why is he yelling about the may the industry works. He used the system just like everyone else. I bet if he was a ‘favorite’ then he would kept his mouth shut.
diesel makes me smile i love you crazy black man!
I agree to some degree. Bareback like any other fetish has its niche.
HOWEVER the one thing Bareback has over say… Bondage is Everyone prefers it!
Anyone who says they prefer watching condom sex is lying to themselves.
Washington is correct about bad production values but that’s true everywhere
If you ask me XTube was the real bullet!
If Mohammad ‘Diesel’ says gay porn is over then it is just accepted. Just like he’s old scene partners had to accept that ‘funk’ he was scattering the set with while attempting to keep his penis in the up rights.
Why now Diesel? Why is gay porn over now? Are all the twinks gone? Have you not been validated in a while?
Ironically, I can see why Diesel wants to go back to how things were in 80s porn. At this blessed Viagra-unknowing time, many performers also had visible wood problems. He’d have fit right in.
I would add the fact that the Internet has allowed egomaniac attention whore-type porn stars to “present” themselves to the world without the packaging, filter and experience of studio PR and fans found out a lot of them are – setting aside the “heteros” with barely veiled contempt for those who jerk off to them – drug-addled whackjobs, self-centered morons, bitter violent swishes, and, in the case of Diesel, all that at once.
Hmmm. Ashton Kutcher?
It’s true of everyone, not just gay porn stars.
This guy is such a tool.
You know he’s been creampied on several occasions off cam
…and?
Oh!
Ha!
But what killed gay porn?
gay porn isn’t dead, diesel washington’s career is!
pack that pipe wash its time for you to bounce.
This could have been written 10 years ago LOL
The gay porn star died long ago. I dont know why he just realized that. Diesel is hot and if it did not take so long for him to cum in scenes, he would be top notch. I think he would be a good director in gay porn.
“if a studio knows that the content it’s producing is just going to end up being illegally downloaded and not paid for, what incentive do they have to produce quality work”? Free Love and appreciation but if they only do it for the money then sure – just more capitalist decadence – like we don;t have enough