Thanks to that awful disclaimer that runs before all of the Sean Cody bareback scenes, we now know what kind of testing a Sean Cody model undergoes before he films his bareback scenes. (We’ve also been given a hypocritical “recommendation” about how to conduct our own sex lives, and I recommend that Sean Cody please stuff it.) But what about the models who don’t do bareback? If it’s so safe, why isn’t everyone doing it? Should we assume that the Sean Cody models who still do condom scenes are HIV-positive, or are they just pussies?
Not that there are very many condom scenes anymore. SeanCody.com has transitioned into more of a bareback site now, having released only three condom movies compared to seven bareback ones in the past month, including today’s release of Dennis & Pierce: Bareback. And while I was watching Dennis ejaculate a large amount of semen directly into Pierce’s asshole this morning, I couldn’t help but wonder if maybe, just maybe, the “RNA by PCR test” (whatever the hell that is) “missed something” and what I was actually witnessing was Dennis inadvertently infecting Pierce with HIV. Oops.
Other questions that ran through my mind while I was masturbating to Dennis and Pierce this morning:
1. Presumably, models whose HIV tests come back positive aren’t allowed to film bareback scenes? Right? What happens to them? Are they sent home for the day?
2. Models who haven’t filmed bareback scenes (yet) include Ethan(!!!), Pavel, and Brodie, to name a few. Are they HIV-positive, or are they just “not interested” in doing bareback?
3. Or, is it that HIV-positive models are allowed to film bareback scenes for Sean Cody, but they are only put into scenes with each other? (Because none of them care about infecting each other with different strains of HIV?) Did Dennis and Pierce’s tests both come back positive, so Sean Cody threw them together for a scene? The disclaimer isn’t clear as to what exactly happens! All it tells me is that people are being tested.
4. Since Cal/OSHA is supposed to be enforcing the state law that protects workers from bloodborne pathogens, will they head down to San Diego and start imposing fines on Sean Cody, just like they did to Treasure Island Media? Or, should Sean Cody be exempt from all the fines because their models are “way hotter”?
5. How much more does a bareback scene pay over a condom scene? $500 more? $1,000 more? How long until Sean Cody recoups what they are shelling out in increased scene rates and expensive testing procedures?
Are these the kinds of things that Sean Cody wants people to be thinking about while watching their scenes? (Granted, I was still masturbating, but it was kind of weird!) RNA by PCR? HIV? STDs?
Oh, the price you pay for trying (and failing) to tell everyone exactly what you’re doing…for telling everyone what they don’t really want to hear…
I am gay and I met with a guy at heat of the moment at home whom was a Utility salesman and without him knowing he knew I was gay and one thing lead to another and had bareback sex but still carried on seeing him for few weeks then I found out he was seeing me for not completely honest right reasons then doubt went though my head what if… I went to open sex screening for gays in my local town. I felt comfort in knowing I haven’t been the only stupid one but what shocked me how many heterosexual guys there were there because they had various of number of flings with men and what saddened me was they cannot be honest with their own feelings but hay thankfully I am with myself and feel sad for guys whom are stuck in a rut my thoughts go out to guys that cant come out gay or bi whatever reason I hope some day you can for yourself. anyhow re my own hiv test came back negative and I also found I had a tear up the anus from years ago when I was sexually abused which I knew and hid for years but I cant get treated until I am a old man sadly so I have to grim and bear it for another 15 yrs or so sadly by hay I found the screening was done in a sensitive manner and gave results discreetly and it was a relief but I feel for guys with bad news though but I don’t condone porn stars that have caught hiv and still practice barebacking despite knowing the dangers to non infected hiv guys and be cool with it, is not a good thing in my opinion. I hope guys will see my story and thick twice and be assured too when you ever go to a sex screening clinic most do treat you with respect anyone deserves hope my experiences help others
Actually the PCR test is NOT A DIAGNOSTIC ESSAY FOR HIV. Take a look at its package insert (just google HIV PCR KIT INSERT to see it by yourself) that reads: “THIS ESSAY IS NOT INTENDED TO BE USED AS A DIAGNOSTIC TEST TO CONFIRM HIV INFECTION”. A well trained molecular biologist knows why…
Watch “House of Numbers” and “The Science of panic” on youtube and everything will make sense…
What does it matter if someone contracts HIV through bareback sex? THEY made the decision to perform bareback sex, so THEY must accept the consequences. People complain about HIV+ actors infecting HIV- actors but at the end of the day, the HIV- actors are also consenting to sex here. If you’re consenting to bareback sex, you’re consenting to the possibility of contracting anything – and not just HIV.
It’s pretty simple. If you don’t want an STD, wrap it up. If you don’t mind contracting a possibly life-changing STD that requires daily medication, check-ups, regular disease-related illnesses and a social stigma, then go without a condom. It’s your life, it’s your choice. Just accept the consequences.
As long as everyone’s fully informed of just what life with HIV entails (I type this as someone whose best friend is HIV+) then it’s their decision to make. Personally, I won’t have bareback sex. But if others want to, so be it.
I mean, you can’t really argue with you what that, truth be told. What you said is true…
I should also add that I’m too scared to BB in my real life, but I’d be ok with barebacking in a SC video after taking those tests. Its arguably the safest way to bareback. Who can afford tests like that before barebacking in real life?
You can’t compare AIDS back then to now. Back then they did not have the medication we have now and they didn’t have the accurate tests we have now. Barebacking at SC is fine to me because of the advanced tests that they use. The person who wrote this article was ignorant. He himself said in the article that he did not know anything about the test SC uses. If he knew, he probably wouldn’t have written this article. The risk is so small for the SC models that its not significant. Barebacking in real life is something to worry about, but not BB in SC videos.
Are you sure? AZT was a poison and the new antiretroviral drugs are a the same to the extent that every single drugs0 disclaimers admits “DOES NOT CURE OR PREVENT HIV OR AIDS-COMMON SIDE EFFECTS: LIVER FAILURE, KIDNEY FAILURE AND….IMMUNODEFICIENCY”. Hiv tests all declair in their package insert they CANNOT BE USED TO CONFIRM HIV INFECTION, be it an Elisa, a Western Blot or a PCR. I think it’s time to really open your eyes… This is only a fraud.
I think barebacking is totally irresponsible. It also makes me sick to read people say “get over it” in regards to bareback sex. Do people not remember AIDS añd how many people it killed? Ill be waiting with baited breath for the next deadly disease to come along, and I wont feel sorry for all the people crying about how it is destroying the gay community.
@J… It is obvious these morons have no life and probably can’t get laid that they have to take they’re anger out on porn…sad
Isn’t it just as bad accusing the performers of having HIV and making such blanket statements regarding most of them? You’re probably that guy at the bar who goes around saying so-and-so is poz just for fun because you have nothing better to do. One of my friends was destroyed by someone spreading awful rumors when they had the wrong person all along. At that point apologies just don’t work when everyone in town thinks you’re toxic.
I agree with Brad and justme. Just stop visiting the website. If the videos weren’t going over well, they would steer away from it, but people love it. I love the scenes. I know what’s going on, I know the risks. Stop assuming porn has so much influence…. you dont see everyone walking around in cutoff flannels and short shorts do you?
LOL
Seriously you guys act like whinny 5 year old bitches. If you don’t like bareback porn then don’t fucking watch it. Bareback porn is here to stay so deal with it.
Honestly, just leave them alone. If you don’t like bareback movies don’t watch them, simple as that. Plus, I am sure the actors aren’t being forced to have unprotected sex.
Just get over it!!
DISCLAIMER: I am a pro condom advocate.
However:
There is a risk. But with the new testing methods it is miniscule. The likelihood of an actor getting HIV from bb(anal sex) scene, if all the testing is done, is almost negligable. Albeit there.
The real risk is if they BB in their personal life. How many of their partners are tested in the same manner? Escorting, dating, if they are in an open relationship etc. are a MUCH higher risk.
So IF a SC model ends up positive, the odds are much, much higher it was from their off screen actions.
All the soapbox grandstanding, hang wringing and preaching when a studio starts doing BB(I’m included in that mix) does not negate the fact the risk is miniscule when all the best new testing methods are practiced. I’m specifically referring to HIV and anal sex.
There is alot of conflicting information regarding oral sex risk. There are experts on both sides of the fence.
From what I’ve read, I believe the evidence of passing HIV orally is anecdotal at best. I have yet to read where there is definitive proof of transmission.
I forgot to add:
If a SC model ends up positive, before you jump on the bandwagon, railing at the studio for filming BB and pointing a finger saying “I told ya so!”, think. In all probability the actor contacted it elsewhere in his personal life.
I hope I’m able to follow my own advice and not go ballistic if it happens!
I really wish people would stop trying to push their morals on me and just push it into me raw. I hook up with guys minus the condim, it’s great I enjoy it. Let me worry about my own health and get over it.
ok, and I reserve the right to tell people not all gay guys are skanky, disease ridde poz whores
Take responsibility for your lives..if you wanna fuck raw, be prepared to suffer the consequences if you happen to end up there….THE END!!!
Never become a crime investigator because your logic is profoundly weak. If you walk out of your door, be prepared to get mugged, killed, etc. OK? Just because it happens doesn’t mean it follows. Your rubbish idea does anything but promote responsibility. In search of an easy superficial explanation, it glosses over all the choices that surround the choice to have bareback sex which could modify it, and insinuate that having bareback or not is the only choice worth pointing the finger at.
Is it wrong of me that I find the first pic somewhat delicious? lol
And I have mixed feelings about barebacking. I like to watch bareback movies, yet I do feel that people should be safe at all times, especially in their private lives. Yes it is their own decision (the actors) to participate in condomless porn and should be aware of the risk, but when a studio is guaranteeing that their testing is accurate, if one of them does contract the HIV virus then a studio should take some responsibility in the matter.
I think the studio takes responsibility in providing the tests. Beyond that, it’s the responsibility of the models to follow some common sense practices. Don’t go out and have a bareback orgy with random people the day before your next shoot or if you do, open your freaking mouth and say you did.
That’s bs… the PCR test requires more than 24hrs from infection as it measures the virus’s RNA (i.e. the virus has to be replicating). The virus could be incubating for up to two weeks, which allows plenty of time for passing it on to others. The reason SeanCody doesn’t have ALL his models do BB, I imagine is just to save money. The RNA/PCR test costs $500 to administer, and if SeanCody had that type of cash for all its model, it certainly has more money than the average state budget for HIV prevention.
It is not true that models who come back would automatically be taken out of bb scenes as anyone who’s acquainted with the poz community knows that some think that with treatment, any poz bottom becomes less of a threat than someone who is “neg.”
As for watching someone give someone else HIV, I assume that we have seen it in more than watching BB scenes as HIV CAN BE transmitted by oral sex and, given the long oral sessions that porn actors go through increasing the likelihood of tares and trauma, I assume that we have. Even more, there have been documented cases of Eastern European models who do BB openly saying how they hate seeing a scene they shot because it was seeing them get the virus. (And btw, if you read some bb porn star’s blog, not all bb porn scens pay higher than condom scenes… I assume that they certainly don’t in Eastern Europe with all the Bel Ami boys which somehow seem not to be the subject of hand wringing by the Sword).
SeanCody’s statement is certainly a way to justify an unjustifiable way of getting money, but at least, it goes a long way to suggesting that others do not try this, and it is certainly better than all the bb straight/bi porn we get elsewhere (ahem CorbinFisher) that pretends to be “safe” just because there are women or “straight” guys who only have sex with women for fun but with other “bro’s” for work involved.
This is your last comment I’m approving if you continue to post about HIV being transmitted through oral sex. One, you’re full of shit, and two, I assume you’re trolling and from AHF.
bsmith most infectious disease experts put the risk of getting HIV through oral sex at 1 and 10000 and most of them think that number is too high. It’s a theoretical not an actual risk. In order for a person to get to that 1 and 10000 number you would have to blow an HIV+ every single day of your life for the next 25 years of your life to get that risk. Plus there have been several long term studies of -/+ couples that have protected intercourse and unprotected oral sex. None of them have come up positive.
But hypothetically someone could get HIV from oral sex. How? The person receiving would have to have big, gaping, life threatening wounds in their mouth which in that scenario, it would be HIGHLY unlikely that someone would be giving someone a blowjob.
You guys are amazing. You rationalize when it suits you. Whether the risk of HIV transmission from oral sex is high or low, we know for a fact that every other STD out there is transmittable through oral sex. But somehow that is conveniently ignored or ok’d by the ambassadors of “safety”. On of the most likely to be transmitted through oral sex is HPV, and that is the virus that leads to throat and neck cancer – something which btw is becoming more and more prevalent. But something tells me that the day when/if that becomes an epidemic, the practice of/ or sight of unprotected oral sex won’t be met with all of this irrational knee-jerk emotionalism that bareback sex receives. Another irony is how some people are quick to remind everyone of how negligible the risk of HIV transmission is through oral sex, yet concurrently EXAGGERATE the odds of someone receiving a false negative HIV result. The reason people get wrong result is overwhelmingly due to improperly waiting to take the test.
Ok, now stating what the CDC directly says in its website about contracting HIV is lying? Btw, the jury is still out from oral sex, but as someone who knows HIV health care professionals, and has seen plenty of doctors say that there is a real risk from oral sex, I can tell you that it is possible.
The statistics you quote are 1) taking from studios of partners with monitored viral loads and 2) not fully accurate as there are enough people in the scientific community who think HIV can be transmitted from oral sex to make the CDC agree, but hell, I guess the CDC is in this massive conspiracy too, huh?
I’m not pro or against whatever you guys want to jack off to, but assuming that studios are not complicit in the spread of HIV in the porn industry is bullshit. As far as all the posting about the PCR tests, there is only one that is accurate about it which is the guy from South Africa. The tests are super expensive, and take at least two weeks to a month to come back, so even then, there is a real risk of contracting HIV.
I understand there is a much higher risk of contracting an STI in real life than in a porn shoot, but what, are we to expect the actors to be celibate except for our viewing pleasure, and then just call them liars when they wish their work life was much safer?
I agree with Samson in that the bigger risks are STI’s like chlamydia and gonnorrhea which often go undiagnosed and end up exposing models to much worse things than HIV–like Hep C through blood cuts. But again, all this goes unsaid, and instead, we focus on a stupid virus that doesn’t kill anyone in the states with proper care anymore. It is ultimately the models, like any worker outside of porn or inside, who are responsible for the risks they take, but I think that the studios, as any employer outside of porn, SHOULD take more care of their models and of the clients they cater to. We put warning labels in acohol, in cigarrettes, and even in FREAKEN CARS… why can’t we do the same for porn, reminding everyone that this is a fantasy?? and to tread with care??
But again, you can call me a troll, you can even refuse to put this comment up out of your own sense of censorship (ironic that you would threaten to censor me when at the same time you advocate free speech for yourself), but that is the truth that many gays seek to forget and i’m sure that the sponsors advertising on The Sword would also like to ignore.
“We put warning labels in acohol, in cigarrettes, and even in FREAKEN CARS… ”
But we still manufacture, produce then and sell them to willing buyers………….
bsmith you need to know the difference between a real and a theoretical risk then get back with us. BTW I can call bullshit on some of what the CDC has written in the past. Why? Because they themselves have had to. 12 years ago or so, they did a survey of gay men and how they contracted HIV and concluded that 8% of them contracted it through oral sex. Researchers quickly realized that these particular researchers did not do any kind of long them evaluation of these men, asked no real follow up questions to corroborate these findings, and took what they said at face value.
Talk to any infectious disease expert about the risk of getting HIV through oral sex. The health care professionals that you know aren’t infectious disease experts who have devoted their careers to researching these issues.
Samson before you get hysterical. HPV related oral cancer cases number between 6000-7000. Not small number but considering that nearly 13% of women will get breast cancer in their lifetime then yes it’s not a large number. Most of those cases are heterosexual men and the majority of head and neck cancers are still from heaving drinking and smoking. Someone who has had less then 5 oral sex partners and is a non smoker has about a about .0001% chance of getting oral cancer. Someone who has had more then 5 the number climbs to .025%, which is still not 1%. Most oral cancers can be caught at a very early stage if their dentist does a oral cancer check during an exam. However, only about 60% of the population sees a dentist even once a year.
HPV is not “one of the most likely” diseases to be transmitted orally. Gonorrhea still holds that honor. That stil doesn’t negate the fact that your chances of contracting a STD are far greater through vaginal and anal sex then they are through oral sex. BTW at least 90% of all sexually active adults will have an HPV infection in their lifetime and never know. The body clears it within 8-24 months.
I don’t care for barebacking porn, but at the same time it doesn’t help anyone to spread hysteria and half truths.
I’ve stumbled into this conversation years too late, perhaps. However, I do feel the need to comment here.
I am completely amazed at the “denialists” out there who think that hiv cannot be contracted through oral sex. And when someone submits evidence contrary to their beliefs, they are completely shut down.
a 1 in 10,000 or whatever hypothetical chance means jack shit when you are that 1 out of the 10,000. It does happen. This is how I contracted hiv–plain and simple. No, I did not have “big, gaping wounds” in my mouth as Estelle seems to think this is the only way hiv is orally contracted. Just from eating food you can end up with microabrasions in your oral mucosa (think potato chips and sharp foods). Just as there are hiv receptors in the penis, anus and vagina, there are also hiv receptors (albeit less, but still there) in the throat. I’m not saying to never have oral sex again or to use a condom for it. I’m just saying the risk is there…it is real and it is not as uncommon as you might think.
There seems to be this mythology going around that if you are HOT and you do a bareback scene it is even HOTTER…
Look at the link below when it was thought that Jay from Sean Cody would perform for Treasure Island Media…the screams of distress and disgust that someone HOT would lower themselves and work for T.I.M.
In truth I see NO difference between Corbin Fisher, Sean Cody and Treasure Island Media…bareback is the same…all of these companies are smearing semen on their holes, putting it back it, sucking their dick after it has been in their ass(yuck)…please someone tell me the difference…
Oh wait; do some gay men want to believe the following:
1. these guys on Sean Cody’s site are straight
2. these guys are HOT and HIV- so bareback sex is OK
3. these guys are somehow reachable and desirable and lastly fuckable
At least T.I.M. does not completely disregard gay men who are in a relationship and have made the choice to have sex on their terms as Sean Cody does…talk about a slap in the face with a shit stained hand…
The uproar is not about being hot and then bareback is ok. It’s that TIM’s models look ragged and over-used, which is not the image Sean Cody’s performers have.
Whew you cleared that up for me…thank you!!
Glad you have been enlightened.
“1. these guys on Sean Cody’s site are straight
2. these guys are HOT and HIV- so bareback sex is OK
3. these guys are somehow reachable and desirable and lastly fuckable”
Why do you pretend to have some facts about what these studios do behind closed doors? Your assumptions are no more valid than the next person’s.
Didn’t pretend anything…simply asking why the appeal for Sean Cody but GREAT hatred and disgust for Treasure Island Media…you didn’t answer the question, you just make a silly comment…try to stay on topic…thank you and remember wrap it up!
How exactly am I off topic by pointing our your clear insinuation that there is no difference between the two sites? You want to point out how it is ostensibly contradictory to like one site but not the other, but I’m saying that your desire to lump all bareback content into one group just shows your bias and how nothing is likely to persuade you to think differently about bareback so your question has already been answered – by you.
It’s pretty well known why all the bug chasers like T.I.M. all you have to do is see their forums, and not only…
Seriously stop being such drama queens , this type of testing is extremely accurate approx 99% . The probability of a false result is minute , but then again no testing is 100% accurate. This particular type of test has can detect a virus just twelve days after infection. Its unlikely that models who test positive will be allowed to perform but that should be the standard anyways. Pretty sure that the negative models are paired together and the different shoots are probably done very close to each other most possibly while the models are still at the studio to reduce the risk of models going home , becoming infected and infecting their scence partners. Since they are engaging in bareback sex they will be subject to AIM requirements now and will have to be tested every thirty days and possibly even before a shoot. These tests in the US costs about $600 a person which is terribly expensive since its available free in countries like South Africa. I will agree that the disclaimer is a bit vague , instead of saying that the studio does not recommend barebacking even in a relationship , they should advise viewers that it should only be acceptable in monogamous relationships after testing . As a medical professional I just thought I would share this . Just remember to get tested and protect yourself and your partner.
“Approximately 99% accurate” is still 1 in 100 INACCURATE.
Which is mostly the same probability of you getting run over by a truck in the second floor of your house (if that is the case.) Quickly. Make things a little more safer.
That kind of test detects virus, not antibodies, within 24 hours of exposure. Of course, it is not perfect and the risk of a mistake is always there, albeit minimal. Now, Sean Cody is different from Treasure Island in that, I assume, they pair performers who are HIV negative when they shoot bareback scenes. Also, the models surely are not obligated to shoot these scenes and if they do, they are aware of the risks and accept them. In the end, it’s an individual’s decision, just like in real life.
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